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Thu Jan 14 18:57:17 UTC 2016  <shinohai>   !s http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/

Thu Jan 14 15:23:22 UTC 2016  <thestringpuller>   and then "But the promised benefits from these textile investments were illusory. Many of our competitors, both domestic and foreign, were stepping up to the same kind of expenditures and, once enough companies did so, their reduced costs became the baseline for reduced prices industrywide. Viewed individually, each company’s capital investment decision appeared cost- effective and rational; viewed collectively, the decisio

Thu Jan 14 14:06:28 UTC 2016  <shinohai>   !s http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

Thu Jan 14 12:48:32 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   !s tardstalk

Thu Jan 14 03:58:39 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   however more importantly b) there is NO WAY for neutral-S miners to profit from T2-Tn as-is.

Thu Jan 14 03:58:27 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   S ? no

Thu Jan 14 03:57:55 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   but the S-selection does not appear to touch block-validity-tester at all!

Thu Jan 14 03:57:50 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   it's true that this costs S-indiscriminate miners the txn fees of T2-Tn, but

Thu Jan 14 03:57:03 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   all miners, whether they be S-indiscriminate or S-selective can mine T1 necessarily. the latter as is ; the former as T1 in 50% of cases and as T1' in the remainder cases, where T1' = C-T1

Thu Jan 14 03:44:52 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   there is no fucking point. what is the point of https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/25/8b/5d/258b5d875293b906b5c97c318c92de29.jpg other than "get all these bitches lined up in thin plastic wrapped young titties so we can stroke it better" ?

Thu Jan 14 03:43:34 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   no miner rejects high S txn as such.

Thu Jan 14 03:43:25 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   i currently send both kinds, and the mined blocks include the low-ified S all the time.

Thu Jan 14 03:42:58 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   see, miner that sees high-S tx can either reject it, or just low-S it.

Thu Jan 14 03:42:03 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   but my earlier hypothesis was that a high (or at least nondiscriminatory)-S pool would specifically have an edge.

Thu Jan 14 03:40:39 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   you ~can~ miner high-S without permafork

Thu Jan 14 03:40:21 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   for some reason the whole high/low S thing is part and parcel of this in my head.

Thu Jan 14 03:39:39 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   i am trying to grasp what, precisely, would happen, if mircea_popescu or anybody were to build a high-S miner

Thu Jan 14 03:38:30 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mircea_popescu: not speaking of miners, but of your earlier statement re:, approx, 'mining a high-S-containing block is a perma-fork'

Thu Jan 14 03:35:10 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   and i am looking at prb right now, it generates low-S only, and ditto for relay, but i see nothing that would force it to reject a block CONTAINING a high-S tx

Thu Jan 14 03:34:30 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mircea_popescu: i think you are conflating the DER encoding thing with the high/low-S thing

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