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Sat Jun 21 16:42:41 UTC 2014  <gribble>   The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by the SEC ...: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=116835.20; SEC Charges Bitcoin Entrepreneur With Offering Unregistered ...: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/277hny/sec_charges_bitcoin_entrepreneur_with_offering/; The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://trilema.com/the- (1 more message)

Sat Jun 21 16:42:40 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   ;;google "BTC doesn't care about the SEC. MPEx rules!"

Sat Jun 21 15:34:20 UTC 2014  <decimation>   I'm not sure if the sec filing has been linked here http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312514190365/d721187ds1a.htm

Fri Jun 20 20:44:09 UTC 2014  <gribble>   Mircea Popescu | LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mircea-popescu/23/a1b/21a; The SEC asked this Romanian Bitcoin CEO for private data. Here is ...: http://www.ihavebitcoins.com/featured/sec-asked-romanian-bitcoin-ceo-private-data-response/; An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era- (1 more message)

Sat Jun 14 03:38:48 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   davout but that aside i dun see much problem with it. gavin is copying the sec, hard to find fault even should you be so inclined.

Fri Jun 13 01:55:32 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   ?All issuers selling securities to the public must comply with the registration provisions of the securities laws, including issuers who seek to raise funds using Bitcoin,? said Andrew J. Ceresney, the SEC?s enforcement director in a press release. ?We will continue to focus on enforcing our rules and regulations as they apply to digital currencies.?

Tue Jun 10 17:07:19 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   never, ever, under any circumstances do what any agency tells you. not the sec, not the irs, not the judge, no one.

Sun Jun 08 22:13:48 UTC 2014  <bitcoingirl>   its just not fair for the sec to charge voorhees with offering securities before offering any guidance

Sun Jun 08 22:11:35 UTC 2014  <bitcoingirl>   this is my conclusion: "In order for the SEC to consider raising bitcoin a securities offering, they would have to consider bitcoin as ‘money,' which they haven't"

Sun Jun 08 22:10:50 UTC 2014  <benkay>   or, whatever legal docs the SEC pooped out

Sun Jun 08 20:53:23 UTC 2014  <bitcoingirl>   +benkay - so how was the SEC able to bring charges against voorhees since Mpex is overseas?

Sun Jun 08 20:39:50 UTC 2014  <assbot>   The SEC Bares its Gums and Settles with Erik | Bingo Blog

Sun Jun 08 20:36:53 UTC 2014  <bitcoingirl>   did anyone here with with mircea on the SEC Voorhees case?

Sat Jun 07 14:20:41 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   the sec is too bitchy to work towards actually putting the guilty in the can tho.

Sat Jun 07 13:42:25 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" <<< in the dreamland they inhabit, where saying makes it so, central bankers can issue currencies which will matter because they say so, and the sec can matter because it's the sec and nobody has to cut a deal with me first or anything.

Fri Jun 06 14:16:18 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   the rest is tacked on because the sec is in a very unenviable strategic position after our meanwhile piublished discussion, and would like to turn the "either mp's way or the highway" into some sort of "either mp's way or epsilon"

Fri Jun 06 14:09:30 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   diametric, well, i'm not a lawyer, and especially not one admitted before the sec bar

Fri Jun 06 14:08:34 UTC 2014  <diametric>   mircea_popescu: speaking of s.nsa, what's your take on erik's settlement with the SEC, and what do you think asciilifeform's risk is of falling into the same situation?

Thu Jun 05 14:21:26 UTC 2014  <ThickAsThieves>   I have spent more on lawyers than Erik has paid the SEC, yes

Thu Jun 05 01:04:48 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   and as to why he ponied up, probably bcause it's a laughably small sum, it gives the sec something it already had (i doubt any us citizen can sanely argue that th eauthority of the us govt and its agencies doesn't extend to him)

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