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Wed Aug 27 01:22:11 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   i guess he doesn't wanna addres it, but let's take a stab anyway. BlueMeanie4 suppose two people wanted to fuck, and both liked to fuck. in scenario A, they fuck. in scenario B, they exchange obligations to fuck, then fuck.

Wed Aug 27 01:20:25 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   if you have enough gold. these people didnt each have enough gold to buy a house, but collectively they had the skills to make houses

Wed Aug 27 01:20:02 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   <BlueMeanie4> but the money and debt allowed them to be specialists << Fraternities at universities do this without the debt. With beer, a good, they manage to trade the good for pledge's dignity.

Wed Aug 27 01:19:40 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   decimation- try building your own house then

Wed Aug 27 01:19:32 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   BlueMeanie4 okay, how would the proof that what i say is actually correct and your view mistaken look to you ?

Wed Aug 27 01:19:29 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   its similar with mortgages, requires capital to get all the specialists together to make a house

Wed Aug 27 01:19:08 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   where there was once no houses, or even individual ability to create houses, there was not a usable house

Wed Aug 27 01:18:32 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   but the money and debt allowed them to be specialists

Wed Aug 27 01:18:22 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   of course they had to work

Wed Aug 27 01:18:18 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   sure it is, I met these people

Wed Aug 27 01:18:00 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   BlueMeanie4 no, but it's not a fair representation of what happened.

Wed Aug 27 01:17:15 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   thats POORER?

Wed Aug 27 01:17:13 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   then they had houses

Wed Aug 27 01:17:10 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   well the people didnt have houses before

Wed Aug 27 01:16:53 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   either in principle or in practice

Wed Aug 27 01:16:40 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   no thats not at all correct

Wed Aug 27 01:16:32 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   with no capital

Wed Aug 27 01:16:19 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   this money system allowed them all to have nice houses in belgium

Wed Aug 27 01:16:07 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   plumbing, electrical, etc

Wed Aug 27 01:16:00 UTC 2014  <BlueMeanie4>   and they loaned it to each other to do jobs on eachothers houses

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