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Mon Nov 07 19:22:23 UTC 2016 <punkman> she got a sticker
Mon Nov 07 17:57:17 UTC 2016 <assbot> The art of making friends and influencing people versus Stockholm Syndrome on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/2efQcSm )
Mon Nov 07 17:56:16 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> funkenstein_: lol no. just as it is not ever the policeman who is deemed responsible for a bank shootout
Mon Nov 07 17:55:42 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> it's not the mining of a segwit tx that starts a fork, it's the mining of a tx that spends a segwit tx without validating the witness signature that does the trick
Mon Nov 07 17:54:10 UTC 2016 <punkman> "A Democracy is any society predicated on the notion that agreement among people enacts reality. As absurd this may sound on the face once plainly stated, it nevertheless is what it is."
Mon Nov 07 17:34:49 UTC 2016 <punkman> if the main chain has segwit transactions, trb nodes will relay blocks and keep up just fine. if someone mines a block with conflicting transactions the trb nodes, but they have to mine at current difficulty and remain longest chain until they get whatever they want from you
Mon Nov 07 17:28:51 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> whoever has not produced a block that trb will split chain on, is 'trb miner' - whatever other thing he thinks he is doing
Mon Nov 07 17:28:09 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> that , according to kakobrekla et al, will be a wholly 1-sided massacre of trb chain
Mon Nov 07 17:27:38 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> this is not a fork though, any more than the 'high-S' idiocy was
Mon Nov 07 17:20:23 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> or is this a more general case of kakotronic 'gavin et al RULE THE WORLD' and if you cross him you only still live because NOT WORTH BULLET!1111 etc
Mon Nov 07 17:19:18 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> it has an engine but sits in a kiddie park
Mon Nov 07 17:18:18 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> it's a decent metaphor. get on the train, look out for tunnels.
Mon Nov 07 17:15:39 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> until first tunnel that is just a bit too low.
Mon Nov 07 17:15:16 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> who can tell themselves a story about being legit passengers 'just like others' etc.
Mon Nov 07 17:13:39 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> taking a tx from A->B with a timelock and crediting it to C seems like a rather serious demolition
Mon Nov 07 17:04:41 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> it's something to keep in mind, i agree. but in principle .. one could also with a short burst of rented hashpower mine a bunch of 50 btc coinbase blocks
Mon Nov 07 17:02:18 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> a short burst would give you a few blocks which then are all orphaned
Mon Nov 07 16:55:00 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> all you need is a relatively modest hammer, to whack the 'segwit' thing into chain divergence.
Mon Nov 07 16:51:37 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> punkman: your node relays tx without a valid signature ?!
Mon Nov 07 16:46:48 UTC 2016 <punkman> well segwit fork seems like it might take a while if at all