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Thu Oct 27 20:33:47 UTC 2016 <adlai> sure, you can't send from p2sh using trb, but you can't generate a p2sh address using trb either, or import one, or... this is not a valid criticism of the method
Thu Oct 27 20:33:19 UTC 2016 <adlai> and once it's in a block, trb will spend from it happily, like it will any other coin it sees in an output to one of its addresses
Thu Oct 27 20:32:56 UTC 2016 <adlai> i'm quite certain that the cleaning procedure is overcomplicated, and you can send directly from p2sh to a trb-supplied p2pkh
Thu Oct 27 20:32:08 UTC 2016 <adlai> kakobrekla: trb could 'validate' a block containing a p2sh spend which has the correct preimage, but the script itself doesn't validate; trb doesn't validate the preimage script. this could cause a 'fork', although trb would notice within a couple blocks that majority hashpower is rejecting that block
Thu Oct 27 20:29:16 UTC 2016 <adlai> also, i feel stupid even saying this, but there's a difference between understanding how a gun fires, and encouraging people to use it
Thu Oct 27 20:28:16 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> and yes, incidentally funkenstein_ was right, it is possible to 'clean' a 3xxxx -> 1xxxx -> block -> trb presently.
Thu Oct 27 20:27:21 UTC 2016 <*> adlai actually tried to explain this over in #t a while back
Thu Oct 27 20:27:03 UTC 2016 <adlai> i'll have what asciilifeform is drinking... p2sh addresses look to trb like they're secured by a hash preimage script which existed in bitcoin since day zero. it won't get relayed, but it will validate in a block, and the outputs will be... whatever they are. if they're p2pkh outputs, ie regular 1xyvz addresses, trb should be able to spend them
Thu Oct 27 20:07:37 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> new block arrives -- contains a TX from 1axxxx to 1bxxxxx, 1axxxx is an output of a 3xxxx-->1axxxx tx much earlier
Thu Oct 27 20:06:34 UTC 2016 <kakobrekla> how is this reveant if you are not a miner
Thu Oct 27 20:05:19 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> (trb, recall, does not accept tx that inter-depend on not-yet-in-a-block tx.)
Thu Oct 27 20:04:58 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> kakobrekla: it still validates based on what goes into a block
Thu Oct 27 19:56:14 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> for example a coin was bought on kraken
Thu Oct 27 19:55:19 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> nobody 'checks manually', wtf, a 1xxxx filled up via prb from a 3xxxxxx and no other tx history will simply show up as a 0.
Thu Oct 27 19:55:13 UTC 2016 <kakobrekla> but i can see there is a lot of noise in our comms
Thu Oct 27 19:49:05 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> or perhaps 10 almost friends who all agree a tx appeared
Thu Oct 27 19:48:50 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> he has a friend who operates a node
Thu Oct 27 19:48:47 UTC 2016 <asciilifeform> it has a function.
Thu Oct 27 19:48:07 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> he sends the buyer a transaction..
Thu Oct 27 19:47:18 UTC 2016 <funkenstein_> without operating a node