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Thu Oct 01 15:39:01 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   as it's not like 100% successful deliver the first time around

Thu Oct 01 15:38:50 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   thing is: what is the rate of emergency c-section for first delivery?

Thu Oct 01 15:36:50 UTC 2015  <mircea_popescu>   diana_coman so 40%

Thu Oct 01 15:36:49 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   then again, I'm sure I can find some data for any figure

Thu Oct 01 15:36:33 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   http://www.bjog.org/details/news/5536911/Almost_two-thirds_of_women_who_attempt_a_natural_delivery_after_having_a_c-secti.html

Thu Oct 01 15:36:32 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   "Almost two-thirds of women who attempt a natural delivery after having a caesarean section for their first birth are successful, according to a study published in BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology."

Thu Oct 01 15:33:35 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   who could use a forceps up its ass

Thu Oct 01 15:33:18 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   and in some cases nature is just a huge idiot

Thu Oct 01 15:33:12 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   thing is: presentation is not by far the end of it really

Thu Oct 01 15:29:09 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   and yeah, that for sure ^

Thu Oct 01 15:28:15 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   could be, tbh I held the same belief right up until I experienced "the wonder of birth"

Thu Oct 01 15:27:39 UTC 2015  <ascii_field>   diana_coman: that figure, if ever even came close, is an artifact of 19th c. euro. 'medicine'

Thu Oct 01 15:27:15 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   pre-birth in hospital basically

Thu Oct 01 15:26:52 UTC 2015  <mircea_popescu>   diana_coman when / where ?

Thu Oct 01 15:26:30 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   the thing is: what used to be the % of death at birth? would you say as high as 40%?

Thu Oct 01 15:25:44 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   it didn't use to be the practice/allowed so kind of hard to tell (as far as I know in Romania for instance you'd still be directly set up for a c-section) so kind of biased numbers as to what the body can/cannot

Thu Oct 01 15:23:54 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   vbac = vaginal birth after c-section so yeah, "normally"

Thu Oct 01 15:23:19 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   what do you mean by generally?

Thu Oct 01 15:23:06 UTC 2015  <mircea_popescu>   diana_coman generally you can't deliver normally after one.

Thu Oct 01 15:13:53 UTC 2015  <diana_coman>   there is vbac too if that's what you mean (with 1/200 chance of uterus rupture and potential death, yes - then again, just check out in how many ways one can die giving -or should I say not-giving- birth the first time anyway)

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