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Sun Oct 19 23:44:50 UTC 2014  <undata>   mircea_popescu: docker does run the risk of merely snapshotting the wad of mess and saying "ok, this wad worked, kind of" rather than actually understanding system state

Sun Oct 19 23:44:01 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   the VM is for protecting you from docker, nto the other way around

Sun Oct 19 23:43:15 UTC 2014  <undata>   I like docker for managing system state; I'm asking what the security value add is above just using the VM directly.

Sun Oct 19 23:42:39 UTC 2014  <undata>   mircea_popescu: you get that with host/vm, why docker?

Sun Oct 19 23:40:52 UTC 2014  <undata>   mats_cd03: I believe it was a question of why both docker and vm?

Sun Oct 19 23:37:55 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   18:29:29 <+mircea_popescu> mats_cd03: mitigation involves layering. SELinux, one docker per vm, <<< trhen why even bother ? am i dense ?

Sun Oct 19 22:29:30 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   mats_cd03: mitigation involves layering. SELinux, one docker per vm, <<< trhen why even bother ? am i dense ?

Sun Oct 19 17:08:28 UTC 2014  <thestringpuller>   toshi.io uses docker

Sun Oct 19 17:06:20 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   i'm still learning how docker works, though, so if i'm wrong here people should chime in and tell me so

Sun Oct 19 17:05:36 UTC 2014  <assbot>   Docker security approach encourages privileged containers Issue #6616 docker/docker GitHub

Sun Oct 19 17:05:34 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   e.g. https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/6616

Sun Oct 19 16:55:55 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   mitigation involves layering. SELinux, one docker per vm,

Sun Oct 19 07:00:21 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   mats_cd03: Does Docker have DTrace?

Sun Oct 19 06:58:34 UTC 2014  <assbot>   VMware Teams With Docker, Google and Pivotal to Simplify Enterprise Adoption of Containers (NYSE:VMW)

Sun Oct 19 06:58:32 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/10/15/new-windows-server-containers-and-azure-support-for-docker/

Sun Oct 19 06:58:32 UTC 2014  <assbot>   New Windows Server containers and Azure support for Docker | Microsoft Azure Blog

Sun Oct 19 06:58:31 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   mats_cd03: So What is docker exactly is it like a FreeBSD Jail a decade late or... Closer to something like Zen?

Sun Oct 19 06:50:57 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   vmware is also moving towards support for docker when they were adamant about it for months prior to the switcharoo

Sun Oct 19 06:49:29 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   for example, did you know the windows 10 team is adopting fixes for ntoskrnl to make it work with docker?

Sun Oct 19 06:43:36 UTC 2014  <mats_cd03>   docker is becoming a huge thing

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