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Thu Jun 16 15:49:34 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   for one thing.

Thu Jun 16 15:49:31 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   browser doesn't give you anything like actual rng.

Thu Jun 16 15:49:16 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   define 'works' and 'know what you're doing'

Thu Jun 16 15:43:46 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   browser crypto is as dumb as 'i think i'll download a new copy of gpg off this unauthenticated link every time i want to use gpg'

Thu Jun 16 15:43:21 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   ^

Thu Jun 16 03:50:43 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   ;;seen mike_c

Wed Jun 15 22:51:12 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   imho djb is the ~one~ fella with genuine talent. which makes it doubly depressing. it is plain as daylight that he ~wants~ to swim against the current, but there is nowhere to swim to.

Wed Jun 15 22:48:28 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   so we get the fluff.

Wed Jun 15 22:48:19 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   (and quite certainly not by declaring 'otp is the only crypto proven to actually work')

Wed Jun 15 22:47:26 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   you can't build a career in mathematics by pushing rsa.

Wed Jun 15 22:47:15 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   but he ~is~ a pro academic.

Wed Jun 15 22:47:12 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   djb is not, afaik, a pawn.

Wed Jun 15 19:23:01 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   (lenstra et al use the runtime complexity of 'best known public attack' as a measure, but this ignores other aspects - such as the considerably greater complexity of ecc, the greater potential for kleptography and diddled constants, etc)

Wed Jun 15 19:17:20 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   'usg said so' is not a rationale. quite the opposite.

Wed Jun 15 19:16:53 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   NO ONE has publicly put forth anything like an actual rationale for any other view.

Wed Jun 15 19:16:02 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   and that the ONLY thing you can tell from there being k bits in a key is that brute force takes AT MOST k operations.

Wed Jun 15 19:15:17 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   that anyone who tells you 'rsa key of x bits is equivalent to ecc key of y bits' is taking you for an idiot.

Wed Jun 15 19:13:23 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   but why you would give half a shit what 'Fact Sheet NSA Suite B Cryptography' or 'NIST Recommendations' etc. say re crypto keys, is beyond me.

Wed Jun 15 19:12:51 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   which in itself is quite dodgy.

Wed Jun 15 19:12:46 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   punkman: the only even vaguely scientific source for the 'key length equivalence' thing is lenstra's paper

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