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Fri Mar 04 21:25:48 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   o hey! check me out i'm a qntra star!

Fri Mar 04 21:24:31 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   heck, i usually forget two.

Fri Mar 04 21:24:28 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   im not even sure I know which! there's too many. and the bitch with things like these is you always forget one.

Fri Mar 04 21:23:57 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   and derpy arguments "won" with me over the particular brokedness of the prototype implementation are roughly the same value and consistency as used toiletpaper.

Fri Mar 04 21:23:29 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   i just put that there to generally and pars pro toto show that when i say bitcoin is a steaming pile of shit, and broadly an undesigned kludge i mean very specific things.

Fri Mar 04 21:22:03 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   because unlike shitforbrainsatosi stuff, they make sense.

Fri Mar 04 21:21:52 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   of course you do.

Fri Mar 04 21:21:10 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   asciilifeform none of that.

Fri Mar 04 21:21:05 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   (yes i'm aware that the above example allows no payments other than in multiples of 50 btc for a while, then multiples of 25, and EVENTUALLY in sasothis. MIND YOU that this is a feature and what you are using now a bug - da fuck do you do when the coinbase is split up in all the satoshis it could be ? ha ? oh, "works for you as it is" ? ty.)

Fri Mar 04 21:19:46 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   they don't have to be.

Fri Mar 04 21:19:30 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn't have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.

Fri Mar 04 21:18:07 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   yes, what ?

Fri Mar 04 21:16:45 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   which is why bitcoin protocol discussions are so complex, and the whole thing so hard : because omfg, the complexity. you don't even rightly know where the problem comes from really, in the rat's nest.

Fri Mar 04 21:16:20 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   the problem ~MAY~ be that bitcoin transactions are dupe-able in the first place, for instance.\

Fri Mar 04 21:15:52 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   anyway, back to the issue. having nodes discard dupes is in principle stupid ; having nodes discard dupes on a first-seen basis is entirely warantless ; trying to run an implementation of this design will run into problems.

Fri Mar 04 21:14:26 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   war is the thing that happens when idiots fucked up the design.

Fri Mar 04 21:13:23 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   fix the protocol.

Fri Mar 04 21:13:19 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   the expectation you'll fix broken protocol sociall is inept.

Fri Mar 04 21:13:00 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   <asciilifeform> the net-as-publictoilet era will e << and this is exactly the situation we have now, except we don't like the miners.

Fri Mar 04 21:08:19 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   flatware etatist bullshit.

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