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Fri Mar 13 16:25:43 UTC 2015  <ben_vulpes>   <gabriel_laddel> [13:15] the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is totally A OK. << and furthermore, the #b-a creed

Fri Mar 13 16:23:22 UTC 2015  <ben_vulpes>   cazalla, gabriel_laddel: it's totarry the jooz.

Fri Mar 13 14:03:44 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   I see.

Fri Mar 13 13:59:55 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   nubbins`: is the guy an actual lunatic or just a deviant his "family & friends" decided to reformat (in your estimation).

Fri Mar 13 13:54:53 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   nubbins`: I'd pirate it.

Fri Mar 13 13:53:17 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   har

Fri Mar 13 13:53:16 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   "Only a man from Budapest can enter a revolving door behind you and exit ahead of you" -- jvn

Fri Mar 13 13:51:14 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   O

Fri Mar 13 13:50:59 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   Fun in the USA

Fri Mar 13 13:50:52 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   nubbins`: !

Fri Mar 13 13:46:44 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   ^ from the above book

Fri Mar 13 13:46:39 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   the machines in the shop roar so wildly / that i often forget in the roar that I am ; / i am lost in the terrible tumult, / my ego disappears, i am a machine. / i work, and work and word without end; / i am busy, and busy and busy all the time. / for what? and for whom? I know not, I ask not! / how should a machine ever come to think?

Fri Mar 13 13:45:23 UTC 2015  <*>   gabriel_laddel I'll note that I hate the perspective of the author in that book but liked the information he had to present.

Fri Mar 13 13:44:23 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   it has some stuff about polgar's daughters

Fri Mar 13 13:43:56 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   cazalla: see also John von Neumann and Norbert Wiener: From Mathematics to the Technologies of Life and Death

Fri Mar 13 13:41:31 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   Interesting book.

Fri Mar 13 13:41:23 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   originally recommended by Stanislav

Fri Mar 13 13:41:03 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   See also China's Examination Hell: The Civil Service Examinations of Imperial China

Fri Mar 13 13:40:10 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   By relieving the brain of all unnecessary work, a good notation sets it free to concentrate on more advanced problems, and in effect increases the mental power of the race. -- A.N. Whitehead

Fri Mar 13 13:39:12 UTC 2015  <gabriel_laddel>   nubbins`: the language doesn't help. For example, a chinese mathematics undergrad from Peking U. I know thought that using a computer algebra system to do mathematics was "cheating". Person in question had no notion of "playing with mathematics". This is more of a cultural thing, but much of human thought is captured in language.

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