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Mon May 26 16:18:52 UTC 2014  <benkay>   <mircea_popescu> benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards. << you'll note i came around eventually.

Mon May 26 13:47:22 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards.

Fri May 23 17:42:51 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   this is very common in gold markets though, it's blatant manipulation

Fri May 23 17:42:34 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   no one looking to get good prices will sell everything huge volumes all at once

Fri May 23 17:42:06 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   gold's been suppressed for ages with all kinds of crazy slamdown trades

Fri May 23 17:41:13 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   sure, I have no doubt it's SOP

Fri May 23 17:40:26 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   it's like how brokers can fleece clients by trading through their stops

Fri May 23 17:39:16 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   sure, that's common sense. but banks trading against their customers, well I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Goldman has done it too

Fri May 23 17:37:37 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   yeah I see what you mean

Fri May 23 17:35:23 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   this sort of thing isn't possible with Bitcoin though

Fri May 23 17:35:01 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   Patrick Byrne from Overstock has been pushing for that ban

Fri May 23 17:33:06 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   yeah absolutely, and pretty sure governments like to see gold price suppressed. major rises in gold give away their inflationary printing

Fri May 23 17:31:18 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   but that's not naked short selling

Fri May 23 17:31:12 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   yeah

Fri May 23 17:29:53 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   explain gold market then, benkay

Fri May 23 17:29:42 UTC 2014  <benkay>   HeySteve: nonsense.

Fri May 23 17:29:17 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   it depends on the structure of the market. if you can naked short commodities, commodity prices will become distorted

Fri May 23 17:28:34 UTC 2014  <Apocalyptic>   <benkay> HeySteve: outlawing market manipulation is a fools errand. those with the cash to throw around are going to do so regardless of the regulatory environment and do so all the time. << pretty much benkay

Fri May 23 17:28:09 UTC 2014  <benkay>   HeySteve: outlawing market manipulation is a fools errand. those with the cash to throw around are going to do so regardless of the regulatory environment and do so all the time.

Fri May 23 17:15:35 UTC 2014  <HeySteve>   barcalys fine 26 million GBP

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