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Tue Nov 08 14:02:16 UTC 2016  <funkenstein_>   i mean, without a valid signature in the first output script

Tue Nov 08 14:00:03 UTC 2016  <funkenstein_>   so am i understanding this right, consider TX 9c08a4d78931342b37fd5f72900fb9983087e6f46c4a097d8a1f52c74e28eaf6, alleged first 3xxx address in chain, you could craft a TX which moved this coin and would be confirmed valid by 0.5.3 and lower?

Tue Nov 08 13:58:06 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   i -- do not particularly like this. which is why i wanted to burn the entire thing down and write sane proggy.

Tue Nov 08 13:57:03 UTC 2016  <adlai>   i like how you're arguing this, the only way to convince you is to send you some coin :)

Tue Nov 08 13:55:57 UTC 2016  <adlai>   one moment you understand this and i feel like an idiot spelling it out, but the next, you say that a confirmed transaction, with p2pkh outputs, but a p2sh INPUT, is not valid.

Tue Nov 08 13:53:56 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   describe to me again why the fuck i should care where it's been prior to landing in my addr.

Tue Nov 08 13:50:26 UTC 2016  <adlai>   i'm choosing to define "valid payment" as "increases the amount of coins which i can spend, that have more than X confirmations by valid blocks"

Tue Nov 08 13:48:15 UTC 2016  <funkenstein_>   i still don't see how anyone would justify a tx which moves ps2h coin to an arbitrary address with no sig

Tue Nov 08 13:46:51 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   i -- am not. quite busy with other matters.

Tue Nov 08 13:43:01 UTC 2016  <adlai>   but this is like saying, "any bitcoin sent to an address 1XYZabc542etcetc which is not one of the addresses from which I can spend, is not a valid Bitcoin payment", and one would not be 100% incorrect

Tue Nov 08 13:40:59 UTC 2016  <punkman>   as I understand all 4 types of segwit tx will be valid after activation

Tue Nov 08 13:40:05 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   pankkake: i read the thing as a running joke.

Tue Nov 08 13:39:53 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   pankkake: i also do not know this.

Tue Nov 08 13:39:41 UTC 2016  <pankkake>   that I know, what I don't know is what was in people's minds

Tue Nov 08 13:38:43 UTC 2016  <pankkake>   I wonder how serious the altcoin "Altcoin" was taken

Tue Nov 08 13:37:37 UTC 2016  <punkman>   kakobrekla: " just as long as i pay 700 bux to the trb, it's not going anywhere." " anyway. if we were to bother with this we'd best fix all the other problems too, so the current miners wouldn't be able to mine trb anyway."

Tue Nov 08 13:35:08 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   i can't speak for every single trbist, but i'ma carry right on simply ignoring the 3xxx crapolade.

Tue Nov 08 13:10:27 UTC 2016  <adlai>   there may be interest in a proper (eg bip17) replacement, but i doubt it's significant

Tue Nov 08 13:05:06 UTC 2016  <adlai>   "plenty"? i don't have statistics on the total count of p2sh txs/utxos, but they've never totalled over 11.5% of all coin, according to http://p2sh.info/dashboard/db/p2sh-statistics

Tue Nov 08 09:18:58 UTC 2016  <punkman>   which I thought I knew but now I'm not sure

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