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Tue Apr 19 19:09:30 UTC 2016  <davout>   can you guarantee i can not find a single address for which there exists an unrelated transaction between the bet resolution and actual payout?

Tue Apr 19 19:08:43 UTC 2016  <davout>   then why do i not see it mentioned in the fas for example?

Tue Apr 19 19:06:07 UTC 2016  <kakobrekla>   whaack i can not speak of how bitbet is going to be acting in the future

Tue Apr 19 19:04:26 UTC 2016  <kakobrekla>   anyway i dont think this debate will see an end or bare fruit of change to davouts payout list. i guess the more important question from now on is how do you fix this. by claiming certain inexact (low/high s) tx is serving your purpose by signing it with outputs or implicitly by using unique addresses or what?

Tue Apr 19 19:01:24 UTC 2016  <whaack>   k thx, wasn't sure why davout's !up didn't work. anyways, if I place a bet on bitbet where I request winnings to go to address A I should make sure no one else is going to create a txn that pays address A because if they send me an amount >= my winnings then bitbet will consider their debt settled? has this been done in the past?

Tue Apr 19 18:36:43 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   kakobrekla do i grasp your idea here ?

Tue Apr 19 18:35:41 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   this, i think, is the core of kakobrekla's argument ?

Tue Apr 19 18:34:39 UTC 2016  <davout>   and please stop with the "doctor" example, wrt bitbet i am a butcher ffs

Tue Apr 19 18:34:36 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   as i understand, the btctronic definition of 'pay' is not compatible with the traditional meatspace one.

Tue Apr 19 18:27:21 UTC 2016  <davout>   i just read the contract

Tue Apr 19 18:24:29 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mp's counter-argument to this gedankenexperiment, last time i presented it, was, iirc, 'fuckyou'

Tue Apr 19 18:23:44 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   unless, e.g., mircea_popescu steps up and proclaims 'NO, the bastard is fooling you, i threw the brick as a birthday gift', or anyone else steps up,

Tue Apr 19 18:23:16 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   i say to him the next day, 'i paid'

Tue Apr 19 18:22:54 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   say i owe davout tenbux

Tue Apr 19 18:22:50 UTC 2016  <davout>   i do not claim it is unrelated, now if mp hypothetically admitted to fucking up and doing it in the name of bitbet, and the statement is not signed by kakobrekla, would mp not be in the right to recoup whatever money he can from these addresses?

Tue Apr 19 18:20:48 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   'i sent it for lulz'

Tue Apr 19 18:20:45 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   sorta why kakobrekla was demanding an mp proclamation to the effect of 'i was NOT attempting to pay the bettors with this tx'

Tue Apr 19 18:16:55 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   when i personally used the site - yes

Tue Apr 19 18:04:11 UTC 2016  <assbot>   Logged on 19-04-2016 17:57:56; PeterL: <kakobrekla> what you think you should has no impact << fine, let me rephrase: This is bitcoin, and I can send money into whichever address I want, and it does not affect your debt to me.

Tue Apr 19 17:57:56 UTC 2016  <PeterL>   <kakobrekla> what you think you should has no impact << fine, let me rephrase: This is bitcoin, and I can send money into whichever address I want, and it does not affect your debt to me.

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