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Mon Mar 07 23:11:15 UTC 2016  <assbot>   Logged on 07-03-2016 23:07:12; mircea_popescu: but, generally speaking, sybil testing on purported bitcoin nodes are a good idea, especially if carried out in secret and uncoordinatedly.

Mon Mar 07 23:11:12 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   and if it doesn't find a block that day ?

Mon Mar 07 23:11:03 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   "pet miner". if pet miner has 1% of hash, the observed phenomena occur 1% of cases.

Mon Mar 07 23:10:46 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   specifically the "sudden mining of an old 0fee tx" ? how ?

Mon Mar 07 23:10:32 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mircea_popescu: the incident with bbet, can be explained without miner cartel.

Mon Mar 07 23:10:16 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   asciilifeform when you say "it is not supported", what do you mean ?

Mon Mar 07 23:09:54 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   specifically because it allows them the only possible moat against competition

Mon Mar 07 23:09:44 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   and there are VERY GOOD game theoretic reasons for a miner cartel to do this.

Mon Mar 07 23:09:26 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   i also said as much at that exact time, in this very chan.

Mon Mar 07 23:09:15 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mircea_popescu: i assumed that you had nonpublic intel that led you to say this.

Mon Mar 07 23:09:01 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   and they put it in, at the ~same second they "broadcast" it to the hanger-on nodes.

Mon Mar 07 23:08:45 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   it is an intricate discussion, and one i'm unwillingto carry in the full detail, but on the basis of what i have seen, it is my considered opinion that at the time in discussion, the miner cartel was running a ~half hour block delay thing.

Mon Mar 07 23:08:10 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   but a pet miner is not good enough.

Mon Mar 07 23:08:01 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   davout> asciilifeform: a transaction being relayed does not imply it will be mined by anyone << especially a 0fee one.

Mon Mar 07 23:07:39 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   asciilifeform how does a transaction that shouldn't even be relayed GET relayed, and then mined, in short order ?

Mon Mar 07 23:07:12 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   but, generally speaking, sybil testing on purported bitcoin nodes are a good idea, especially if carried out in secret and uncoordinatedly.

Mon Mar 07 23:06:52 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   it is unclear what the help'd be at the present time, however. i see exactly no signs of any of the observed behaviours discussed in teh qntra piece anymore.

Mon Mar 07 23:06:01 UTC 2016  <mircea_popescu>   i'm willing, on general goodwill, to help. i am certainly not willing to underwrite an open ended personal support for some venture i happen to manage.

Mon Mar 07 23:05:56 UTC 2016  <asciilifeform>   mircea_popescu: this is so far imho the best argument for why it had to be bbet's foot on the mine.

Mon Mar 07 23:05:52 UTC 2016  <davout>   mircea_popescu: i like to check stuff, maybe there's stuff to learn if i find out they somehow were relayed to my nodes at some point

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