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Sat Sep 27 08:26:57 UTC 2014 <moriarty> the power of ##econometrics and mathematics leads you to such mind-clarifying conclusions :) never underestimate the power of knowledge to distill the world with such ease
Sat Sep 27 08:25:45 UTC 2014 <moriarty> think axiom of choice, or Zorn's lemma being equivalent over the ZF set theory as such attempts and the findings prove as much
Sat Sep 27 08:25:05 UTC 2014 <moriarty> the second part of Godel's exposition states that under proper conditions, a strong formal system cannot prove its consistency
Sat Sep 27 08:24:33 UTC 2014 <moriarty> and these are a result from a non-isomorphic model as proven by Lowenheim-Skolem in first order logic
Sat Sep 27 08:23:43 UTC 2014 <moriarty> the first incompleteness theorem states that under the proper conditions, there are statements that are true but not provable
Sat Sep 27 08:23:02 UTC 2014 <moriarty> let me help clarify your confusion, BingoBoingo
Sat Sep 27 08:22:45 UTC 2014 <moriarty> tell me in a one-liner what you think the first incompleteness theorem is espousing
Sat Sep 27 08:22:28 UTC 2014 <moriarty> bounce, are you familiar with Godel's incompleteness theorem?
Sat Sep 27 08:22:08 UTC 2014 <moriarty> bounce, pretty much :)
Sat Sep 27 08:21:51 UTC 2014 <moriarty> bounce, nope
Sat Sep 27 08:21:34 UTC 2014 <moriarty> bounce, well it's no different then saying, IFF God tells me so THEN it follows that...
Sat Sep 27 08:20:00 UTC 2014 <moriarty> or any logical system even
Sat Sep 27 08:19:55 UTC 2014 <moriarty> bounce, then you cannot build any system of belief without it
Sat Sep 27 08:19:39 UTC 2014 <moriarty> :)
Sat Sep 27 08:19:38 UTC 2014 <moriarty> everything needs axioms as Godel would have you know
Sat Sep 27 08:19:27 UTC 2014 <moriarty> BingoBoingo, even science requires faith
Sat Sep 27 08:19:08 UTC 2014 <moriarty> BingoBoingo, what do you think all the axioms require in a philosophical model if not faith?
Sat Sep 27 08:18:56 UTC 2014 <moriarty> BingoBoingo, sure, and philosophy doesn't require faith? :)
Sat Sep 27 08:18:41 UTC 2014 <BingoBoingo> moriarty: Religion generally requires Spz. additional dependencies that philosophy per it self doesn't
Sat Sep 27 08:18:07 UTC 2014 <moriarty> BingoBoingo, how's that?