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Wed Mar 19 20:33:03 UTC 2014  <davout>   ninjashogun: "improving their OS" and "creating a new solid OS" sounds like a difference in degree, not in kind

Wed Mar 19 20:32:19 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   davout - that is a fairer example. Their backwards compatibility is a 'debt' because they are actually taking it on as a commitment. It's clearly a slightly lower debt than they would have if they had a goal of creating a real operating system like Unix and BSD's

Wed Mar 19 20:32:12 UTC 2014  <davout>   ninjashogun: for the rest there's mastercard

Wed Mar 19 20:31:55 UTC 2014  <Perlboy>   ninjashogun, all of it. :)

Wed Mar 19 20:31:45 UTC 2014  <moiety>   ninjashogun: 100%

Wed Mar 19 20:31:38 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   Perlboy, their safes?

Wed Mar 19 20:31:36 UTC 2014  <davout>   ninjashogun: it can be debt in the sense that they have to keep backwards compatibility up to some level

Wed Mar 19 20:31:33 UTC 2014  <Perlboy>   ninjashogun, all of it.

Wed Mar 19 20:31:32 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   Perlboy, their web page?

Wed Mar 19 20:31:28 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   Perlboy, their servers?

Wed Mar 19 20:31:22 UTC 2014  <Perlboy>   ninjashogun, every system, windows.

Wed Mar 19 20:31:12 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   Perlboy - what do you mean "100%"?

Wed Mar 19 20:31:03 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   davout - that is true. I think Microsoft isn't selling that migration path though :)

Wed Mar 19 20:30:02 UTC 2014  <davout>   ninjashogun: except if you're considering the expense of time required to switch useful applications to better OSes

Wed Mar 19 20:29:50 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   davout - on the other hand if your prototype is pyrite and you're prototyping a gold bracelet (the way many startups prototype an MVP then intend to build scallability) then it can be considered a "debt".

Wed Mar 19 20:29:39 UTC 2014  <davout>   ninjashogun: sounds like a point

Wed Mar 19 20:29:18 UTC 2014  <moiety>   ninjashogun, dear, when you begin by talking about incompetence of managers and people that make food... you cannot really switch to a whole company that is comprised of millions of them. #consistency

Wed Mar 19 20:29:18 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   davout - just like, if you make a bracelet out of pyrite, you do not have the "debt" of whatever it would take to re-make in Gold. You just have a pyrite bracelet.

Wed Mar 19 20:28:53 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   davout - that's silly :) The term "technical debt" is an analogy, i.e. you get features now but at a commitment of future time. If that future time is not a real commitment, then there is no actual debt involved.

Wed Mar 19 20:28:16 UTC 2014  <ninjashogun>   Most people, that is, except for the millions of people using them to withdraw money.

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