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Wed Sep 03 13:30:15 UTC 2014  <Azelphur>   pankkake: yea, there are a few

Wed Sep 03 13:29:53 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   owncloud competitor http://cozy.io/

Wed Sep 03 12:43:31 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   pankkake: You know what works with systemV init? A/UX

Wed Sep 03 12:27:22 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   Not pankkake french

Wed Sep 03 12:14:51 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   you edit your init system really?

Wed Sep 03 12:14:12 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   I'm sick and tired of talking in riddles

Wed Sep 03 12:14:00 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   yes, and?

Wed Sep 03 12:13:21 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   it's a bunch of shell scripts that do just that

Wed Sep 03 12:13:04 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   and init systems DO handle encryption, network setup

Wed Sep 03 12:12:50 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   nor is torvalds against systemd

Wed Sep 03 12:12:40 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   ubuntu doesn't use systemd because it's shit

Wed Sep 03 12:11:32 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   ;;later tell pankkake srsly, the odds of me coming to an opinion contrary of torvalds' on topix of linuxness are maybe null. wtf.

Wed Sep 03 12:02:51 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   what am I even doing here?

Wed Sep 03 12:02:41 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   fucking fuck

Wed Sep 03 12:02:38 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   init systems are PID 1...

Wed Sep 03 12:01:00 UTC 2014  <mircea_popescu>   pankkake so far i see some glaringly bad design decisions (core in journal, srsly ?) and some meat to the "they're trying to hijack linux" allegations. (srsly, this shit is too good to run as a user instance ?)

Wed Sep 03 11:59:56 UTC 2014  <punkman>   pankkake: well I have no clue, but is it that systemd is not retarded, or that the alternatives suck

Wed Sep 03 11:59:54 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   ...

Wed Sep 03 11:59:47 UTC 2014  <BingoBoingo>   pankkake: this is *nix world, everything works!

Wed Sep 03 11:59:32 UTC 2014  <pankkake>   the part of jumping of the "systemd is bad" bandwagon without any knowledge whatsoever

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