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Tue Jul 07 15:06:57 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   jurov: because ~we don't have a workable scheme~ for pogo

Tue Jul 07 14:47:08 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   so much as opening pogo and touching inside multiplies the cost of the operation.

Tue Jul 07 14:46:06 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   adding so much as a shoelace to pogo would multiply the cost.

Tue Jul 07 14:45:25 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   you go to war with the pogo you have, not the pogo you wish you had, to borrow a bushism

Tue Jul 07 14:45:14 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   pogo has no buttons and no displays.

Tue Jul 07 14:38:54 UTC 2015  <decimation>   I agree but the enemy would have to know that this is a pogo vs. other bitcoin node

Tue Jul 07 14:38:23 UTC 2015  <decimation>   then the pogo can average the timestamps relative to its own samples of block times

Tue Jul 07 14:37:45 UTC 2015  <decimation>   over time, a chain is built which contains timestamps and relative timestamps from the pogo

Tue Jul 07 14:37:24 UTC 2015  <decimation>   precisely. pogo starts its own stopwatch, and starts watching for blocks to verify

Tue Jul 07 14:37:02 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   pogo is able to keep time, in the relative sense, similar to how msdos did (periodic interrupt)

Tue Jul 07 14:36:37 UTC 2015  <decimation>   do you trust your own clock on the pogo?

Tue Jul 07 14:35:25 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   say i feed your pogo the entire sequence of blocks 0,5000 with the period times. now it believes that it's 2009 ?

Tue Jul 07 14:34:19 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   transmitted just for the purpose of fucking with pogo

Tue Jul 07 14:33:53 UTC 2015  <decimation>   asciilifeform: what about waiting for a few hours to observe several blocks upon pogo boot?

Tue Jul 07 14:19:29 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2015#1190838 << pogo has to work when plugged into the wall! what 'switch' ?!! and you cannot learn ~anything~ about the current time from a purported block. this is circular logic!1111 block is only valid ~if~ within 2h of current time. any backflow can and will result in enemies 'nudging' the time

Tue Jul 07 14:19:29 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 07-07-2015 10:58:01; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the entire timing discussion : suppose the pogo gets started always with a realtime switch, -time=14blablabla, and after that gets its time from the most recent block it accepts and checks for next ones being within +-7200 seconds.

Tue Jul 07 10:58:01 UTC 2015  <mircea_popescu>   asciilifeform re the entire timing discussion : suppose the pogo gets started always with a realtime switch, -time=14blablabla, and after that gets its time from the most recent block it accepts and checks for next ones being within +-7200 seconds.

Tue Jul 07 04:03:49 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   pogo needs to plug into the wall and immediately fight

Tue Jul 07 00:10:42 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   decimation: my pogo didn't come with a gimbal telescope; did yours ?

Mon Jul 06 23:40:00 UTC 2015  <asciilifeform>   on pogo we very much have no such thing

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