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Thu Jul 30 04:01:53 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 30-07-2015 03:02:01; decimation: lol 'rotor' immediately fails on osx 10.10 with "You need at least one UTF8 locale to build a toolchain supporting locales"

Thu Jul 30 03:02:01 UTC 2015  <decimation>   lol 'rotor' immediately fails on osx 10.10 with "You need at least one UTF8 locale to build a toolchain supporting locales"

Thu Jul 30 02:38:26 UTC 2015  <mod6>   not even for a few months -- even before rotor came out.

Thu Jul 30 02:29:10 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 29-07-2015 22:58:15; mod6: How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems.

Thu Jul 30 01:39:10 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 29-07-2015 23:05:49; mod6: Trying to create a one-size-fits-all script for everyone to use to build this thing is not going to work. And how does one bundle up something such as 'rotor' and end up not maintaining buildroot and everything else? That's a game that I'm not interested in playing. And it's dangerous for us to go that direction.

Thu Jul 30 00:34:01 UTC 2015  <shinohai>   If anyone gets rotor to successfully build on the pogo, please, by all means contact me.

Thu Jul 30 00:08:10 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 29-07-2015 22:58:15; mod6: How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems.

Wed Jul 29 23:09:39 UTC 2015  <mod6>   That all being said, I'm super glad that 'rotor' is out there now, and I hope to learn and use it one day myself. Maybe even this week! But that shouldn't be something that we deliver.

Wed Jul 29 23:05:49 UTC 2015  <mod6>   Trying to create a one-size-fits-all script for everyone to use to build this thing is not going to work. And how does one bundle up something such as 'rotor' and end up not maintaining buildroot and everything else? That's a game that I'm not interested in playing. And it's dangerous for us to go that direction.

Wed Jul 29 22:58:15 UTC 2015  <mod6>   How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems.

Wed Jul 29 15:57:29 UTC 2015  <phf>   is bitcoind basically a new buildroot package or you're doing shellscripts? (sorry, i've not had a chance to look at rotor yet)

Wed Jul 29 15:56:04 UTC 2015  <ascii_field>   phf: the other purpose of 'rotor' is to have a 100% deterministic build

Wed Jul 29 15:54:38 UTC 2015  <ascii_field>   'rotor' is the result.

Wed Jul 29 15:53:43 UTC 2015  <phf>   is rotor intended for general distribution, that is non-specialist should be able to download and do an independent turnkey build?

Wed Jul 29 15:48:43 UTC 2015  <shinohai>   I'm going to try the pogo build with rotor again later this evening. So everyone wish me luck.

Wed Jul 29 15:46:29 UTC 2015  <mod6>   isn't rotor just 'old-stator' (from a few months ago) + buildroot & openssl patch?

Wed Jul 29 15:45:38 UTC 2015  <ascii_field>   http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216599 << release is of source, rather than binary, so not sure how much of a difference it makes for the release. but it'd be nice if folks were bashing their heads agains the wall to build rotor - a fully de-drepperized bitcoin - than the old stator, imho

Wed Jul 29 15:45:38 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 29-07-2015 14:01:24; mod6: asciilifeform: if folks want to build obsolete crud, it is their business; but i would like to make sure they know that it is obsolete crud, and that i can either try to somehow support it XOR release new stuff ('rotor' etc) << are you infavor of releasing 'rotor'?

Wed Jul 29 15:06:42 UTC 2015  <pete_dushenski>   http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216494 << finally looking at 'rotor' now

Wed Jul 29 15:06:42 UTC 2015  <assbot>   Logged on 29-07-2015 13:23:41; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216398 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216402 << if folks want to build obsolete crud, it is their business; but i would like to make sure they know that it is obsolete crud, and that i can either try to somehow support it XOR release new stuff ('rotor' etc)

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